by Anonymous Coward writes:
on Tuesday February 12, 2019 @03:08AM (#58108168)
Gotta love that, the devices users pay the largest markup for and apple choose cost saving measures over functionality. I guess as long as the user base continues to accept mistreatment that is exactly what they will get.
Yeah, a "cost-saving" measure on a device selling for upwards of $1000 and with a huge profit margin. Sold by one of the richest corporations in the world.
"Profit-saving" measure is the proper word here.
As you said however, gullible Apple fans deserve it. "There's a sucker born every minute" - and at least every 5 minutes it's an Apple fanboy.
As an Apple user I have to agree that there are not many compelling reasons left to upgrade. With many of the older models, Apple brought something exciting that was worth having: good performance upgrades, a convenient and secure (compared to the competition) fingerprint scanner, nice designs, better cameras... not necessarily being ahead of Android competitors, but still good reasons to get a new phone if you prefer iOS like I do. But the last few years have brought very little that I want. The phones are the same except for one new larger model, though they make 'em out of different material since the iPhone 7 IIRC, so trying to hold on to the newer ones feels like trying to hold a very thin wet bar of soap.
Moving to a standard USB-C connector would be nice though. Not enough reason in itself to upgrade the phone, but it would help. Now just be brave, end the thinness war, add a physical home button again with fingerprint scanner, give us a bezel instead of a notch, or just drop the front-facing camera completely (along with the inane face unlock) and add a small screen to the back of the phone for taking selfies. A lot of the recent stuff they have done such as the notch, dropping the headphone jack, face unlock, all feel like they are rather clumsy workarounds.
Yeah I've got a 5S which usually works fine, but is occasionally slow enough at something that I consider replacing it, but if I'm going to lose my headphone jack I want at least a USB-C so I have something standard on it. Do any of the android phones continue to get patches and support as long as Apple yet?
Go with a pixel, it's got stock android, with no extra bloat ware, and gets the updates first, and the over the longest time period since they are googles own phones. You don't have a headphone jack, but you do have usb-c and with the pixel 3 you get wireless charging again, they dropped that for a few years.
I don't think "profit-saving" is even accurate either. It would be more accurate to say profit-generating measure. And with their new wireless charging pad being released this year, what better reason to "upgrade" to that latest (expensive) accessory and help them generate even more profit
And why did I put "upgrade" in quotes? Because wireless charging isn't much of an upgrade. Sure you don't have to plug in a wire, but it's slow. Even slower than the basic charger that comes in the box with your phone. But
There may be a rationale for 5W versus 20W chargers that has to do with making the phone batteries degrade slower and reduce the risk of fire.
But I do know that my phone gets pretty warm when it is charging and though heat flux does not scale perfectly linearly with temperature, for small differences it's linear enough to say that if you double the charging rate you will double the temperature rise.
Since I'd not want a phone that was 3 times hotter than room temperature rise than it gets now I think this b
There may be a rationale for 5W versus 20W chargers that has to do with making the phone batteries degrade slower and reduce the risk of fire.
So then why does Apple sell a 12W charger that charges the iPhone at 12W, rather than just 5W? Is it because the degradation of the batteries and risk of fire are lower with a 12W Apple charger?
The comeback is, well then how come apple doesn' sell a 50 watt charger? Evidently there is some limit and I discussed what the sources of the limits are.
I would strongly speculate that the 12 watts charger only really runs at 12 watts under optimal cooling conditions or for part of the cylce. It's may possibly be more of a fast-charger as I noted at the end.
You have a good point about battery longevity. We have a slow charger in the bedroom, and a fast one in the car (which is only used when needed), for that same reason. But this seems like something that Apple could address in software. It might need tighter integration between the USB controller and the OS, but Apple controls all of that.
I'm not too familiar with how Apple lighting chargers work, but with USB the device negotiates the voltage and current with the charger. It seems possible that iOS could no
Gotta love that, the devices users pay the largest markup for and apple choose cost saving measures over functionality.
Yep so you can buy a new apple macbook and a new apple iphone and be supplied a cable that can't connect the two of them...you have to go and buy a different cable or an adapter if you actually want to do that.
According to all the latest reports, there was no truth in any of the
earlier reports.
bend over. (Score:1)
Re: bend over. (Score:1, Interesting)
For as long as a clueless pervert butt-fucking Tim Cocksucker leads it.
Re:bend over. (Score:4, Insightful)
Yeah, a "cost-saving" measure on a device selling for upwards of $1000 and with a huge profit margin. Sold by one of the richest corporations in the world.
"Profit-saving" measure is the proper word here.
As you said however, gullible Apple fans deserve it. "There's a sucker born every minute" - and at least every 5 minutes it's an Apple fanboy.
Re:bend over. (Score:5, Insightful)
Moving to a standard USB-C connector would be nice though. Not enough reason in itself to upgrade the phone, but it would help. Now just be brave, end the thinness war, add a physical home button again with fingerprint scanner, give us a bezel instead of a notch, or just drop the front-facing camera completely (along with the inane face unlock) and add a small screen to the back of the phone for taking selfies. A lot of the recent stuff they have done such as the notch, dropping the headphone jack, face unlock, all feel like they are rather clumsy workarounds.
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I don't think "profit-saving" is even accurate either. It would be more accurate to say profit-generating measure. And with their new wireless charging pad being released this year, what better reason to "upgrade" to that latest (expensive) accessory and help them generate even more profit
And why did I put "upgrade" in quotes? Because wireless charging isn't much of an upgrade. Sure you don't have to plug in a wire, but it's slow. Even slower than the basic charger that comes in the box with your phone. But
Fire saving and battery lifetime extension? (Score:3)
There may be a rationale for 5W versus 20W chargers that has to do with making the phone batteries degrade slower and reduce the risk of fire.
But I do know that my phone gets pretty warm when it is charging and though heat flux does not scale perfectly linearly with temperature, for small differences it's linear enough to say that if you double the charging rate you will double the temperature rise.
Since I'd not want a phone that was 3 times hotter than room temperature rise than it gets now I think this b
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There may be a rationale for 5W versus 20W chargers that has to do with making the phone batteries degrade slower and reduce the risk of fire.
So then why does Apple sell a 12W charger that charges the iPhone at 12W, rather than just 5W? Is it because the degradation of the batteries and risk of fire are lower with a 12W Apple charger?
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The comeback is, well then how come apple doesn' sell a 50 watt charger?
Evidently there is some limit and I discussed what the sources of the limits are.
I would strongly speculate that the 12 watts charger only really runs at 12 watts under optimal cooling conditions or for part of the cylce. It's may possibly be more of a fast-charger as I noted at the end.
Why not address it in software? (Score:2)
You have a good point about battery longevity. We have a slow charger in the bedroom, and a fast one in the car (which is only used when needed), for that same reason. But this seems like something that Apple could address in software. It might need tighter integration between the USB controller and the OS, but Apple controls all of that.
I'm not too familiar with how Apple lighting chargers work, but with USB the device negotiates the voltage and current with the charger. It seems possible that iOS could no
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Gotta love that, the devices users pay the largest markup for and apple choose cost saving measures over functionality.
Yep so you can buy a new apple macbook and a new apple iphone and be supplied a cable that can't connect the two of them...you have to go and buy a different cable or an adapter if you actually want to do that.