Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want: * Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or * A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
We know that oppressive governments the world round demand the second option. Which should you demand?
"To know who rules you, ask: who am I not allowed to criticize in public? Those are your rulers."
Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want: * Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or * A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
See, but here's the thing. Irresponsible speech that promotes violence will always lead to suppression. You 4chan jackoffs knew this a long time ago, but thought that it was more important to be edgelords and have lulz than it was to be responsible. So now, you reap the whirlwind and spoil it for every
A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
And if it had no real world consequence then I would be on your side. However, hate crimes have been spiking and it turns out some edgelords aren't really being edgy at all. Should we just take people being murdered because of these internet clowns in stride?
Not really. There was a "spike" in 2016 but the increase came about because of increased hate crime against white people (marginal effect) and because of an increase of reporting agencies participating with the FBI to gather the statistics (big effect). Since after the election the trend has been going down.
Should we just take people being murdered because of these internet clowns in stride?
You shouldn't use an anecdote to base your opinion. By all metrics and by all statistics it isn't as bad as the media or you portray it.
There was a "spike" in 2016 but the increase came about because of increased hate crime against white people (marginal effect) and because of an increase of reporting agencies participating with the FBI to gather the statistics (big effect). Since after the election the trend has been going down.
There are four assertions in those two sentences, and every single one of them is a lie. Four out of four.
Or, you could just cite some supporting data for your original assertion. It's not my job to prove what you said is bullshit. It's your job to back up your claims with more than fantasy.
Or you could actually ask for supporting data like a reasonable person instead of calling me a liar. Now, that you have supporting data; Am I still a liar or are you the one in a fantasy because everything you said is bullshit.
Or you could actually ask for supporting data like a reasonable person instead of calling me a liar.
Do you realize your supporting data actually verifies that you're not being truthful? You provide data for 2015 and 2016, but your assertion was about "after the election". Do you know that most of your increase in "anti-white motivations" were hate crimes against gays? Your desperate to show somehow that right-wing hate crimes perpetrated by white people are not increasing. You have failed to do so an
I did not assert "after the election". Maybe you need to reread the comment. I said "in 2016" because that was when we started to see the "spike in hate crime" narrative start "because Trump".
were hate crimes against gays?
Maybe you need to read the links I sent a bit more because saying that makes you look like an idiot. I cited single bias incidents. There were 32 multiple bias incidents in 2016. If you want to contest that the single bias incidents that were classified as racially motivated but were really about sexual orientation, by all means I would like to see your in depth analysis of the data of why the FBI classified those wrong. If you want to contest that the 32 multiple bias incidents is enough to offset the increase of racially motivated hate crimes against white people then by all means. I am open to hear your interpretation.
Your desperate to show somehow that right-wing hate crimes perpetrated by white people are not increasing.
No that is your projection. I said that the "spike in 2016" often talked about wasn't a spike. If there was a spike the largest increase was racially motivated hate crimes against white people. I also said that the number of reporting agencies have increased which increases the number of incidents [slashdot.org]. Note that is for 2017 where we see the narrative is "17% super scary increase". Which amounts to about a single reported incident per additional reporting agency. But if you want to contest why a simplistic year to year comparison is a valid analysis even though the FBI cautioned against that very type of analysis, I would like to hear why you think you are smarter than the FBI.
You have failed to do so and have instead resorted to red herrings.
Yes, you absolutely refuted the data I presented with nothing but faulty assumptions and misrepresentation. Everything you said was bullshit. Everything I said was backed by data. You called me a liar for supporting my statements with FBI statistics and data. Care to try again?
Uh oh. you got me. I read that somewhere and I can't remember where. So I can't support it. Everything else I said was true and that last sentence doesn't change the point I was making.
Felson's Law:
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from
many is research.
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I see no problem here (except with some employees who are complaining, who should probably be fired).
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Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want:
* Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or
* A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
We know that oppressive governments the world round demand the second option. Which should you demand?
"To know who rules you, ask: who am I not allowed to criticize in public? Those are your rulers."
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See, but here's the thing. Irresponsible speech that promotes violence will always lead to suppression. You 4chan jackoffs knew this a long time ago, but thought that it was more important to be edgelords and have lulz than it was to be responsible. So now, you reap the whirlwind and spoil it for every
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A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
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A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
And if it had no real world consequence then I would be on your side. However, hate crimes have been spiking and it turns out some edgelords aren't really being edgy at all. Should we just take people being murdered because of these internet clowns in stride?
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However, hate crimes have been spiking
Not really. There was a "spike" in 2016 but the increase came about because of increased hate crime against white people (marginal effect) and because of an increase of reporting agencies participating with the FBI to gather the statistics (big effect). Since after the election the trend has been going down.
Should we just take people being murdered because of these internet clowns in stride?
You shouldn't use an anecdote to base your opinion. By all metrics and by all statistics it isn't as bad as the media or you portray it.
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There are four assertions in those two sentences, and every single one of them is a lie. Four out of four.
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Oh, well you said it so it must be true.
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Or, you could just cite some supporting data for your original assertion. It's not my job to prove what you said is bullshit. It's your job to back up your claims with more than fantasy.
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Or you could actually ask for supporting data like a reasonable person instead of calling me a liar. Now, that you have supporting data; Am I still a liar or are you the one in a fantasy because everything you said is bullshit.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime... [fbi.gov]
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime... [fbi.gov]
6121 in 2016.
5850 in 2015.
This is the 4% total hate crime incident spike talked about for 2016.
3489 in 2016 were racially motivated
3310 in 2015 were racially motivated
This is a 5% to describe the racially motivated spik
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Do you realize your supporting data actually verifies that you're not being truthful? You provide data for 2015 and 2016, but your assertion was about "after the election". Do you know that most of your increase in "anti-white motivations" were hate crimes against gays? Your desperate to show somehow that right-wing hate crimes perpetrated by white people are not increasing. You have failed to do so an
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I did not assert "after the election". Maybe you need to reread the comment. I said "in 2016" because that was when we started to see the "spike in hate crime" narrative start "because Trump".
were hate crimes against gays?
Maybe you need to read the links I sent a bit more because saying that makes you look like an idiot. I cited single bias incidents. There were 32 multiple bias incidents in 2016. If you want to contest that the single bias incidents that were classified as racially motivated but were really about sexual orientation, by all means I would like to see your in depth analysis of the data of why the FBI classified those wrong. If you want to contest that the 32 multiple bias incidents is enough to offset the increase of racially motivated hate crimes against white people then by all means. I am open to hear your interpretation.
Your desperate to show somehow that right-wing hate crimes perpetrated by white people are not increasing.
No that is your projection. I said that the "spike in 2016" often talked about wasn't a spike. If there was a spike the largest increase was racially motivated hate crimes against white people. I also said that the number of reporting agencies have increased which increases the number of incidents [slashdot.org]. Note that is for 2017 where we see the narrative is "17% super scary increase". Which amounts to about a single reported incident per additional reporting agency. But if you want to contest why a simplistic year to year comparison is a valid analysis even though the FBI cautioned against that very type of analysis, I would like to hear why you think you are smarter than the FBI.
You have failed to do so and have instead resorted to red herrings.
Yes, you absolutely refuted the data I presented with nothing but faulty assumptions and misrepresentation. Everything you said was bullshit. Everything I said was backed by data. You called me a liar for supporting my statements with FBI statistics and data. Care to try again?
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Here is a direct quote from your comment:
And, that assertion is not true.
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Uh oh. you got me. I read that somewhere and I can't remember where. So I can't support it. Everything else I said was true and that last sentence doesn't change the point I was making.