If you pick single clear examples, yeah, it's not arbitrary. Why would you think it would be? Here you go, draw the line:
1) John is like a pretzel with no salt. 2) John is ugly. 3) John is fugly. 4) John's mom wished she would have aborted him. 5) If John died, would anyone care? 6) Any day that John gets hurt is a good day. 7) I cheer on anyone who punches someone like John. 8) Would be nice if someone would go over and fuck John up. 9) If John does that again, I'm going to kick his ass. 10) I'm buying a beer for the first person to kick John in the nuts. 11) Anyone up for kicking John's ass? 12) Lets all meet at 10am tomorrow morning at John's house and teach him a thing or two. 13) The John beatdown party for tomorrow is on! 12 confirmed participants. 14) [image of gun] John, I'm coming for you.
Feel free to envision a vast spectrum for child porn as well, with differing amounts of clothes and levels of sexual innuendo through actual sex, with stick figures to uncanny valley 3D to photo-realistic 3D to real children.
If you don't think it's going to be arbitrary, I don't think you've thought about it hard enough. And you don't realize that most everyone is going to have a different line than you'll have.
Your comment is insightful, as modded. However, I'd answer by saying that everything in the real world is on a spectrum and unless you want to exist all the way on the end of the spectrum (which is often an argument to absurdity) then you have to draw a line somewhere. The line is going to be somewhat arbitrary and will somewhat conform to "community standards". If you don't like it then don't live in that community or stay and try to push the standards your way (not being an a-hole there, just realistic). The way to not change community standards is to insist on 100% purity and extremes in everything. Instead, push for realistic changes and push the line a little at a time -- that's how many good social changes have occurred. And for those firebrands out there who say they should have whatever they want, whenever they want -- the "community" can push back a lot harder than you can if provoked enough.
Everything is on a spectrum, and not acknowledging that ends in failure. Wanting a simplistic binary choice is almost never a functional solution, unless you're talking about actual 1s and 0s.
My general philosophy is to come to an agreement on the borders of the extremes, and then set up a methodology for judging everything else. In my example above, I'd take the position of saying, "1-5 is fine, and 10-14 is not. Everything else needs to be judged based on the following...." And t
Funnily enough, we've already done this as a society over the last 1000 years or so. 10-14 are potentially illegal, with the ease of prosecution going up as you approach 14. This is particularly true if there is any other evidence available of actual intent to follow through on any of these.
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I see no problem here (except with some employees who are complaining, who should probably be fired).
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*Exceptions being the obvious ones, illegal content, kiddy pron.
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illegal content
Oops.. That's pretty arbitrary, don't you think? Anything can be made illegal at the drop of a hat. Or has everybody forgotten already?
The only thing that is truly threatened by "toxic" content is mass media and the institutions dependent on its propaganda.
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OY! You got a license for that joke?
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If you pick single clear examples, yeah, it's not arbitrary. Why would you think it would be? Here you go, draw the line:
1) John is like a pretzel with no salt.
2) John is ugly.
3) John is fugly.
4) John's mom wished she would have aborted him.
5) If John died, would anyone care?
6) Any day that John gets hurt is a good day.
7) I cheer on anyone who punches someone like John.
8) Would be nice if someone would go over and fuck John up.
9) If John does that again, I'm going to kick his ass.
10) I'm buying a beer for the first person to kick John in the nuts.
11) Anyone up for kicking John's ass?
12) Lets all meet at 10am tomorrow morning at John's house and teach him a thing or two.
13) The John beatdown party for tomorrow is on! 12 confirmed participants.
14) [image of gun] John, I'm coming for you.
Feel free to envision a vast spectrum for child porn as well, with differing amounts of clothes and levels of sexual innuendo through actual sex, with stick figures to uncanny valley 3D to photo-realistic 3D to real children.
If you don't think it's going to be arbitrary, I don't think you've thought about it hard enough. And you don't realize that most everyone is going to have a different line than you'll have.
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Your comment is insightful, as modded. However, I'd answer by saying that everything in the real world is on a spectrum and unless you want to exist all the way on the end of the spectrum (which is often an argument to absurdity) then you have to draw a line somewhere. The line is going to be somewhat arbitrary and will somewhat conform to "community standards". If you don't like it then don't live in that community or stay and try to push the standards your way (not being an a-hole there, just realistic). The way to not change community standards is to insist on 100% purity and extremes in everything. Instead, push for realistic changes and push the line a little at a time -- that's how many good social changes have occurred. And for those firebrands out there who say they should have whatever they want, whenever they want -- the "community" can push back a lot harder than you can if provoked enough.
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That was largely my point.
Everything is on a spectrum, and not acknowledging that ends in failure. Wanting a simplistic binary choice is almost never a functional solution, unless you're talking about actual 1s and 0s.
My general philosophy is to come to an agreement on the borders of the extremes, and then set up a methodology for judging everything else. In my example above, I'd take the position of saying, "1-5 is fine, and 10-14 is not. Everything else needs to be judged based on the following...." And t
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Funnily enough, we've already done this as a society over the last 1000 years or so. 10-14 are potentially illegal, with the ease of prosecution going up as you approach 14. This is particularly true if there is any other evidence available of actual intent to follow through on any of these.
That should be YouTube et al's standard.
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Once you incite violence, you've crossed the line.
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You really don't like John do you.