Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want: * Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or * A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
We know that oppressive governments the world round demand the second option. Which should you demand?
"To know who rules you, ask: who am I not allowed to criticize in public? Those are your rulers."
Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want: * Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or * A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
See, but here's the thing. Irresponsible speech that promotes violence will always lead to suppression. You 4chan jackoffs knew this a long time ago, but thought that it was more important to be edgelords and have lulz than it was to be responsible. So now, you reap the whirlwind and spoil it for every
A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless.
Oh, society can "take" the edgelords in stride, alright. It strides right over them. Historically, it's been done on a regular basis. It was done in the 1940s, and again to the KKK in the 1960s. And now it's your turn in the barrel.
Society interprets hateful edgelords as damage and routes around them.
Society interprets hateful edgelords as damage and routes around them.
...hence the need for speech codes in places like university campuses**, right?
** It should be noted that a university is precisely the place where ideas noble and stupid, concepts altruistic and hateful... all of this should be debated openly, in an environment that encourages clear logic, reason, and rhetoric. Alas, there seems to be a lack of that on most campuses these days. Probably because people go around calling every idea that makes them uncomfortable "hateful" and suchlike, without even trying to
...hence the need for speech codes in places like university campuses**, right?
Gosh, you're so close to understanding my point. We get speech codes on campus because edgelords thought irresponsible speech was the height of cleverness and society will eventually say, "enough".
Speech codes are bad. But they are what society is going to do when people don't know how to fucking behave responsibly. If you want to be an edgelord, you have to be prepared to accept the consequences. But just be aware that everybody ends up paying for your fun, because when the suppression of speech comes, it comes for everyone. We all experience your consequences. Your running with scissors ends up with us all getting an eye put out.
Just because Muslims are responsible for trade towers, doesn't mean we should hate or ban Muslims it is wrong and an overreaction. Same with free speech just because there are people out there that say stupid or racist things doesn't mean we should banning all speech that we disagree with. You maybe right and society may do this, but it shouldn't.
Just because Muslims are responsible for trade towers, doesn't mean we should hate or ban Muslims it is wrong and an overreaction. Same with free speech just because there are people out there that say stupid or racist things doesn't mean we should banning all speech that we disagree with.
"Banning" Muslims would be something government does. YouTube is not the government. If they don't want stupid or racist things on their site, they can do what they want.
Felson's Law:
To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from
many is research.
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I see no problem here (except with some employees who are complaining, who should probably be fired).
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Indeed. Which standard do you, gentle Slashdot read, want:
* Videos that people want to put up, and that people want to see; or
* A curated selection of videos that are best for you, as judged by your betters
We know that oppressive governments the world round demand the second option. Which should you demand?
"To know who rules you, ask: who am I not allowed to criticize in public? Those are your rulers."
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See, but here's the thing. Irresponsible speech that promotes violence will always lead to suppression. You 4chan jackoffs knew this a long time ago, but thought that it was more important to be edgelords and have lulz than it was to be responsible. So now, you reap the whirlwind and spoil it for every
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A society that can't take edgelords in stride is pretty damn useless. Maybe the answer is to realize that humor, tasteless or otherwise, is unimportant, and let is pass.
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Oh, society can "take" the edgelords in stride, alright. It strides right over them. Historically, it's been done on a regular basis. It was done in the 1940s, and again to the KKK in the 1960s. And now it's your turn in the barrel.
Society interprets hateful edgelords as damage and routes around them.
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Society interprets hateful edgelords as damage and routes around them.
...hence the need for speech codes in places like university campuses**, right?
** It should be noted that a university is precisely the place where ideas noble and stupid, concepts altruistic and hateful... all of this should be debated openly, in an environment that encourages clear logic, reason, and rhetoric. Alas, there seems to be a lack of that on most campuses these days. Probably because people go around calling every idea that makes them uncomfortable "hateful" and suchlike, without even trying to
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Gosh, you're so close to understanding my point. We get speech codes on campus because edgelords thought irresponsible speech was the height of cleverness and society will eventually say, "enough".
Speech codes are bad. But they are what society is going to do when people don't know how to fucking behave responsibly. If you want to be an edgelord, you have to be prepared to accept the consequences. But just be aware that everybody ends up paying for your fun, because when the suppression of speech comes, it comes for everyone. We all experience your consequences. Your running with scissors ends up with us all getting an eye put out.
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"Banning" Muslims would be something government does. YouTube is not the government. If they don't want stupid or racist things on their site, they can do what they want.