I was thinking just this plus, the whole system sounds like some sort of Rube Goldberg designed service, and for what, the combined computing power of a couple atiny chips and one atmega?
Someone has obviously not heard of Amdahl's law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law Or thought about the issues with power consumption, data distribution, security, reliability, fault tolerance, and just about anything else.
That and the fact that IoT is NOT about active processing in devices (thats only an enabler to it), it is about the centralisation of control of those devices 'in the cloud', for whatever benifit that is supposed to bring (mostly to the bottom line of the suppliers by sel
From my work in the consumer electronics industry designing embedded chips, fractions of a penny add into big numbers when multiplied by millions or billions of parts. See the PIC [wikipedia.org]. I don't know what the industry is dong today, but 15 years ago people were talking about building hundreds of devices for a penny. An internet connected lightbulb doesn't need to be that capable. ON/OFF/BURNOUT are it's three required states.
From my work in the consumer electronics industry designing embedded chips, fractions of a penny add into big numbers when multiplied by millions or billions of parts. See the PIC [wikipedia.org]. I don't know what the industry is dong today, but 15 years ago people were talking about building hundreds of devices for a penny. An internet connected lightbulb doesn't need to be that capable. ON/OFF/BURNOUT are it's three required states.
Yeah, for a commodity product that competes on nothing other than price. However IOT devices may compete on functionality as well and/or start out as niche products not massively deployed products. I think your point may be more true of later generation devices than it is for initial generations.
The more numbers my CPU crunches, the more power it consumes. I really don't want 100 devices in my home running at full power and draining the electricity from the grid (costing me more money) just so some jack wagon developer can crunch some numbers faster for their latest 'waste of time' smart phone app.
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IoT != compute (Score:5, Insightful)
this is stupid. no. just no. ok?
iot is all about low power, dedicated and it is NOT YOUR HOSTING PLATFORM for running your bullshit on.
iot has enough trouble with weak or non-existent security and the devices are just not meant to accept 'workloads' from you.
someone has been smoking from the beowulf bowl...
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Exactly. But this is the University of Alabama...
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I was thinking just this plus, the whole system sounds like some sort of Rube Goldberg designed service, and for what, the combined computing power of a couple atiny chips and one atmega?
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Agree 100%.
Someone has obviously not heard of Amdahl's law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl's_law
Or thought about the issues with power consumption, data distribution, security, reliability, fault tolerance, and just about anything else.
That and the fact that IoT is NOT about active processing in devices (thats only an enabler to it), it is about the centralisation of control
of those devices 'in the cloud', for whatever benifit that is supposed to bring (mostly to the bottom line of the suppliers by sel
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weak or non-existent security
And, that is why the Republicans are pushing IoT so hard. So hard.
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All your devices are belong to us! Opps, a small software bug flooded your house, not our responsibility due to the legal agreement, have a nice day!
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Low power and low bandwidth. Very very low bandwidth in some cases.
If someone wants spare compute cycles, then use those smart phones that are constantly being used for stupid things.
Bitcoin mining doesn't need much bandwidth (Score:2)
Low power and low bandwidth. Very very low bandwidth in some cases.
Well bitcoin mining doesn't need much bandwidth. :-)
Why 8-bit 8051 over 32-bit ARM ? (Score:2)
Is there a big advantage to going 8-bit 8051 over ultra-low-power 32-bit ARM these days?
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From my work in the consumer electronics industry designing embedded chips, fractions of a penny add into big numbers when multiplied by millions or billions of parts. See the PIC [wikipedia.org]. I don't know what the industry is dong today, but 15 years ago people were talking about building hundreds of devices for a penny. An internet connected lightbulb doesn't need to be that capable. ON/OFF/BURNOUT are it's three required states.
Yeah, for a commodity product that competes on nothing other than price. However IOT devices may compete on functionality as well and/or start out as niche products not massively deployed products. I think your point may be more true of later generation devices than it is for initial generations.
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The more numbers my CPU crunches, the more power it consumes. I really don't want 100 devices in my home running at full power and draining the electricity from the grid (costing me more money) just so some jack wagon developer can crunch some numbers faster for their latest 'waste of time' smart phone app.